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71MBA01

6月25日

トルコ語

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I've never seen a beautiful woman like you.
あなたのようにきれいな女の人をあまりみませんでした。
ただしいですか。

「に」かわりに「な」をつかうことができますか。とはどういう意味ですか?

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cathy423blue

6月25日

日本語

I've never seenは「見たことがない」と訳します。

あなたのようにきれいな女の人
あなたのようなきれいな女の人

同じ意味と考えてよいです。

ローマ字/ひらがなを見る

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71MBA01

6月25日

トルコ語

My grammar book are written like that: İf you use adjective after you, you should use ni, but if you use just noun, you should use na.
anata you na hito
anata you ni kirei hito.

is that rule correct?

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nishishoro

6月25日

日本語

Both ways are possible.

ように is adverbial use.
ような is adjectival use.

From rhetorical point of view, repeating な looks less beautiful in written language. In colloquial scene, many Japanese use double な without hesitation.

あまりみませんでした means you have seen some. If you want to say 'never seen', you must say みたことがない.

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Portanhol

6月25日

日本語

That rule simplifies the linguistic reality too much.
Syntactically the correct analysis is as follows:

「あなたのようなきれいな人」
＝あなたのような like you ＋きれいな人 a beautiful woman
＝a beautiful woman like you

「あなたのようにきれいな人」
＝[あなたのように as you (are) ＋きれいな as beautiful] ＋人 a woman
＝ a woman as beautiful as you (are)

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nishishoro

6月25日

日本語

@71MBA01

No, it is not true.
Probably, your grammar book teaches a practical way only.

Actually, both な is grammatically correct way as well.

anata no you na hito
⇒youna will become adjective to modify noun hito.

anata no you ni kirei na hito.
⇒youni will become adverb to modify adjective kireina which modifies noun hito.

anata no you na kirei na hito.
⇒youna will become adjective to modify noun hito
at same time, kireina is adjective to modify hito.

So, this is double adjective to modify one same noun.

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71MBA01

6月25日

トルコ語

anata no you ni taberaremasen. according to you, that sentence is correct, right. İ can't eat as much as you.

anata no you ni hayaku ikemasen.
anata no you ni kuwashikunai.
these sentences are correct, right?

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71MBA01

6月25日

トルコ語

you gave me good examples, I understood grammer better.
Thank you.

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Portanhol

6月25日

日本語

@71MBA01 Completely correct, right and current.
One more point: "I can't eat as much as you." etc. could be more simply translated as「anata HODO taberaremasen」because「no you ni」that indicates a certain same amount/quantity can be (but not always) paraphrased as「hodo」.

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71MBA01

6月25日

トルコ語

Aaa thank you very very much.
İ just really understand that subject. Thank you very much.

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71MBA01

6月25日

トルコ語

You helped me very much. İ want to help you too. how can I help you. Also I want to ask you the other questions. Because you really explain very well.

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71MBA01

6月25日

トルコ語

as for hodo, İf i use as much as you, can i use gurai instead of hodo.
anata gurai taberaremasen.
is it correct?

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71MBA01

6月25日

トルコ語

anata hodo hansamu na danse
anata no you na hansamu na danse
these usage are generally the same meaning.
thank you.

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nishishoro

6月26日

日本語

@71MBA01

In some cases, noyouni, hodo, gurai are possible to be exchanged each other but not for everything.

noyouni has basic concept of resemblance.
hodo about degree or level.
kurai about quantitave degree.

Difference arose from these basic concept will cause adequateness for using each word in the context.

noyouni has connotation of resemblance while hodo and kurai carries sense of comparison.

So I think you had better stick to these rules to avoid wrong using in context.
noyouni = like something
hodo, gurai = as much as

Another tendency between hodo and gurai is that in negative sentences, hodo appears more frequently.
⇒anata hodo taberaremasen.
"anata gurai taberaremasen" will bring uneasy feeling to Japanese.
while in positive sentences, both are interchangeable.
⇒anata hodo taberaretara ii desu ne,
⇒anata gurai taberaretara ii desu ne,

But sometimes:
⇒anata hodo hansamu na dansei wa hoka ni imasen.
⇒anata gurai hansamu na dansei wa hoka ni imasen.
⇒anata hodo hansamu na dansei wa itsumo daikangei desu.
⇒anata gurai hansamu na dansei wa itsumo daikangei desu.
all the above are acceptable, so this can not be said as absolute matter.

anata no you na hansamu na dansei
anata hodo hansamu na dansei
You can say they are same meaning, but still bring different connotation.

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71MBA01

6月26日

トルコ語

anata youni taberaremasen means that maybe you are eating ramen with chopstick now, and i don't know using the chopstick and i want to eat the ramen with fork.

anata hodo taberaremasen means maybe you are very fatty person. You ate too much ramen. I look at the dish you ate and I'm surprised. aa bro how did you eat the ramen too much. İ can never eat as much as you, so anata hodo zenzen taberaremasen.

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